http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/ Recorded messages from BVC's Sunday celebration services. Podcast Generator 1.2 - http://podcastgen.sourceforge.net Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:57:47 -0700 en (c) 2009 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/images/itunes_image.jpg http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/ Recorded messages from BVC's Sunday celebration services. a place of hope in san jose Douglas Estes Douglas Estes podcast@bvchurch.com clean Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-07-28_how_do_you_get_the_holy_spirit.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-07-28_how_do_you_get_the_holy_spirit.mp3 49:23 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:55:33 -0700 A Look at Psalm 118 A Look at Psalm 118 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-07-19_victory_in_jesus.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-07-19_victory_in_jesus.mp3 39:16 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 19 Jul 2010 17:35:56 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-06-14_oops_we_forgot_god_4.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-06-14_oops_we_forgot_god_4.mp3 42:48 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:26:46 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-06-14_oops_we_forgot_god_3.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-06-14_oops_we_forgot_god_3.mp3 44:34 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:03:12 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-06-05_ooops_we_forgot_god_2.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-06-05_ooops_we_forgot_god_2.mp3 50:59 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Sat, 05 Jun 2010 14:31:03 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-06-05_ooops_we_forgot_god_1.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-06-05_ooops_we_forgot_god_1.mp3 40:32 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Sat, 05 Jun 2010 13:42:44 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-04-26_bless_me_curse_me_2.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-04-26_bless_me_curse_me_2.mp3 38:27 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 26 Apr 2010 11:07:05 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-04-21_bless_me_curse_me_1.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-04-21_bless_me_curse_me_1.mp3 38:10 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Wed, 21 Apr 2010 12:58:26 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-04-16_hope_restored_1.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-04-16_hope_restored_1.mp3 43:53 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Fri, 16 Apr 2010 09:38:56 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-04-16_hope_restored_2.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-04-16_hope_restored_2.mp3 37:14 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Fri, 16 Apr 2010 09:18:33 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-03-22_ill_do_anything_for_god_1.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-03-22_ill_do_anything_for_god_1.mp3 44:35 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:26:31 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-03-15_fresh_choice_2.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-03-15_fresh_choice_2.mp3 52:17 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:07:29 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-03-09_fresh_choice_1.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-03-09_fresh_choice_1.mp3 53:05 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:00:28 -0800 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-03-01_is_god_dead_3.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-03-01_is_god_dead_3.mp3 37:02 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 01 Mar 2010 10:33:53 -0800 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-02-22_is_god_dead_2.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-02-22_is_god_dead_2.mp3 52:41 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:33:43 -0800 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-02-16_is_god_dead_1.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-02-16_is_god_dead_1.mp3 57:21 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:51:49 -0800 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-02-09_good_to_great_5.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-02-09_good_to_great_5.mp3 45:24 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:46:31 -0800 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-02-02_good_to_great_4.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-02-02_good_to_great_4.mp3 45:44 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:31:40 -0800 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-01-25_good_to_great_3.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-01-25_good_to_great_3.mp3 46:08 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:28:41 -0800 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-01-11_good_to_great_1.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-01-11_good_to_great_1.mp3 50:55 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:40:11 -0800 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-01-08_the_state_of_the_church_2010.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2010-01-08_the_state_of_the_church_2010.mp3 44:22 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Fri, 08 Jan 2010 08:17:05 -0800 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-12-31_a_christmas_prophesy_4.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-12-31_a_christmas_prophesy_4.mp3 48:08 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Thu, 31 Dec 2009 11:09:09 -0800 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-12-22_a_christmas_prophesy_3.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-12-22_a_christmas_prophesy_3.mp3 38:26 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:10:05 -0800 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-12-07_a_christmas_prophecy_1.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-12-07_a_christmas_prophecy_1.mp3 28:56 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 07 Dec 2009 12:05:23 -0800 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-11-30_togetherness.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-11-30_togetherness.mp3 36:09 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:55:22 -0800 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-11-16_lets_be_honest_3.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-11-16_lets_be_honest_3.mp3 34:00 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:56:47 -0800 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-11-10_lets_be_honest_2.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-11-10_lets_be_honest_2.mp3 52:33 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:32:48 -0800 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-11-02_lets_be_honest_1.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-11-02_lets_be_honest_1.mp3 41:35 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 02 Nov 2009 10:38:28 -0800 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-10-26_in_the_name_of_love_4.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-10-26_in_the_name_of_love_4.mp3 52:59 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:39:29 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-10-20_in_the_name_of_love_3.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-10-20_in_the_name_of_love_3.mp3 51:03 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:03:48 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-10-05_in_the_name_of_love_1.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-10-05_in_the_name_of_love_1.mp3 41:46 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:04:25 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-09-28_finding_success_in_an_economic_mess_4.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-09-28_finding_success_in_an_economic_mess_4.mp3 49:15 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:24:48 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-09-21_finding_success_in_an_economic_mess_3.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-09-21_finding_success_in_an_economic_mess_3.mp3 49:51 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:27:58 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-09-14_finding_success_in_an_economic_mess_2.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-09-14_finding_success_in_an_economic_mess_2.mp3 47:02 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:11:27 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-09-09_finding_success_in_an_economic_mess_1.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-09-09_finding_success_in_an_economic_mess_1.mp3 41:01 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Wed, 09 Sep 2009 10:34:43 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-08-31_hearing_and_doing.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-08-31_hearing_and_doing.mp3 37:22 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:55:38 -0700 Jason C. Helveston Jason C. Helveston http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-08-24_identity_seeing_jesus_and_being_the_church_dsc.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-08-24_identity_seeing_jesus_and_being_the_church_dsc.mp3 37:08 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 24 Aug 2009 11:00:18 -0700 Pastor Don Reed Pastor Don Reed http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-08-17_faith_hope_and_love.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-08-17_faith_hope_and_love.mp3 44:20 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:52:46 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-08-10_a_servant_like_jesus_4.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-08-10_a_servant_like_jesus_4.mp3 46:04 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:36:18 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-07-27_a_servant_like_jesus_2.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-07-27_a_servant_like_jesus_2.mp3 38:50 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 27 Jul 2009 10:37:29 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-07-20_a_servant_like_jesus_1.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-07-20_a_servant_like_jesus_1.mp3 41:59 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:48:10 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-07-13_the_double_edged_sword_4.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-07-13_the_double_edged_sword_4.mp3 49:24 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 13 Jul 2009 10:44:49 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-07-05_the_doubleedged_sword_3.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-07-05_the_doubleedged_sword_3.mp3 41:27 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:56:19 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-06-30_the_doubleedged_sword_2.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-06-30_the_doubleedged_sword_2.mp3 44:44 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:13:15 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-06-22_the_doubleedged_sword_1.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-06-22_the_doubleedged_sword_1.mp3 44:53 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 22 Jun 2009 07:08:50 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-06-15_testing_the_limits_2.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-06-15_testing_the_limits_2.mp3 54:32 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:53:27 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-06-12_testing_the_limits_1.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-06-12_testing_the_limits_1.mp3 52:03 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:11:13 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-05-28_the_resurrection.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-05-28_the_resurrection.mp3 48:00 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Thu, 28 May 2009 10:58:41 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-05-28_the_cross.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-05-28_the_cross.mp3 47:35 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Thu, 28 May 2009 10:38:48 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-05-12_jesus_as_sacrifice_3.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-05-12_jesus_as_sacrifice_3.mp3 43:45 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Tue, 12 May 2009 08:01:59 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-05-12_jesus_as_sacrifice_2.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-05-12_jesus_as_sacrifice_2.mp3 43:28 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Tue, 12 May 2009 07:45:25 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-05-01_jesus_as_sacrifice_hcc.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-05-01_jesus_as_sacrifice_hcc.mp3 50:43 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Fri, 01 May 2009 10:02:14 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-04-23_born_christian.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-04-23_born_christian.mp3 46:30 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:04:04 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-04-13_building_on_a_solid_foundation_5.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-04-13_building_on_a_solid_foundation_5.mp3 52:50 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:43:55 -0700 Pastor Douglas Estes Pastor Douglas Estes http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-04-13_return_to_hope_4.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-04-13_return_to_hope_4.mp3 44:53 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Mon, 13 Apr 2009 12:43:54 -0700 Building on a Solid Foundation 6 Building on a Solid Foundation 6 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-04-09_building_on_a_solid_foundation_6.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-04-09_building_on_a_solid_foundation_6.mp3 41:28 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:51:25 -0700 Return to Hope 3 Return to Hope 3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-04-09_return_to_hope_3.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-04-09_return_to_hope_3.mp3 35:53 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:23:24 -0700 Return to Hope 2 Return to Hope 2 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-04-09_return_to_hope_2.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-04-09_return_to_hope_2.mp3 40:22 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Thu, 09 Apr 2009 13:15:56 -0700 Return to Hope 1 Return to Hope 1 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-04-09_return_to_hope_1.mp3 http://media.bvchurch.com/podcast/?p=episode&name=2009-04-09_return_to_hope_1.mp3 56:28 podcast@bvchurch.com (Douglas Estes) Douglas Estes no Thu, 09 Apr 2009 12:37:13 -0700